from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
Yes. Those talks. I remember them vividly.
About those great tribulation starting & you're locked-in & your fate is sealed when the GT starting.
A lull & hush would sweep over the circuit assembly. All you could hear was a child goooing & gahhing & the ventilation system.
That wasn't even a decade ago.
Now those "intense talks"" are just.......
from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
Vanderhoven
They dont know what they teach themselves.
Not long ago,,,, maybe 8 - 10 years ago there were talks about whatever you were doing at that time you were locked-in and you were doomed.
Now,, we have this last minute repentance thing??
They dont know !!
for those on this forum who still consider themselves christian or students of the bible, are there any bible principles you came across during your own study or research that were never brought out by the gb of the jws but that you found significant or profound?.
i don't mean doctrinal issues like the trinity, heaven & hell, etc, as these are issues christendom has been arguing over for centuries.
i mean simple, scriptural principles that the gb could've highlighted at any time, but for various reasons - some obvious, some less so - have chosen not to.. one that stood out to me is in 1 samuel chapters 2, 3 and 4.. young samuel has been dedicated to the temple and is being raised to serve god there.
The governing body hijacked the ""faithful servant" parable in Matthew 24:45 to make it apply to them.
Faithful slave.
hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
The Borganization cant let this crisis go to waste.
They will have to piggyback more fearmongering on this.
hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
Lets hope that all the victims & families can bond together & pull through all of this.
just hearing about this now.
mike rinder has died.. he was a lifelong scientologist who broke away from the organization and became one of its biggest detractors.. rest in peace, mike!
thanks for what you did to expose cults.. https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/mike-rinder-obituary?pid=208313152.
Condolences.
hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
All those dear people in CA,,,, may God bless you all and get through this horrible event.
hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
For all those affected....please to do take care and be safe.
i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.
i just can't easily find reference to anything.
this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.
Its a really,, really unfortunate thing being born & raised in this religion.
Thats all you've known. Thats all you expect & are going to expect. The big 'A' is forever immminent. Its all you know.
Meanwhile being stripped of your authenticity & potential.
On the other hand,,, being born into this you learn adaptability. How to be resourceful. When you realize you've been lied too....
from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
It is a form of mental abuse & manipulation.
How the Borg and God are used simultaneously and synonymously to mean the same thing.
Its sophisticated,, and it works. They go so far as to extend this to bible times to interchange Gods' people with the Israelites & they synonymously use the people in that day to interchange with the JWs in,,,, our modern day of life.
Its sophisticated mind control. Its manipulative & effective.
